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pepe and Big610 editors

Post by Fonzy » 10 Jul 2019, 02:56

Hi,
Pepe and Big610 are editors on the stations database, and they work hard , but.... they do not use radio sure.
Big610 even asks "how to play the streams in radiosure", thus he does not posesses the radiosure programm (or he does not use a full computer?, but a smartphone to play ??)
- For Big610: install radiosure, by download (the free) programm ver 2.2.1046 from the site (radiosure/stations/downloads) and install it
- For pepe; same suggestion: do install the radiosure , even the free version, so you can TEST and find out by yourself if station plays opr not in the RS programm (by submit a stream from clipboard to the radio , and so play the stream directly.
Those users wonders why the submissions are rejected somtimes , while they claim "the station plays well", but on VLC player or in browsers.
For that purpose, they do not need the radiosure listing, so I assume they open the manually downloaded rsd file and open it in MSexcell, or a free office programm, for selecting streams; While it is much easier to play the streams by using Radio Sure player, having all features of it then also (recording songs in mp3 format, equalizer for play sound to name a few)

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Re: pepe and Big610 editors

Post by eMzw7gJ2NjEdmoNkiR9B » 11 Jul 2019, 01:23

Opening the streams from MSExcel with Firefox as the default browser and the Addon "Tree Style Tab" installed will quickly show you which streams are broken and need work. (free from https://piro.sakura.ne.jp/xul/_treestyletab.html.en )

Filtering the MSExcel file for streams containing the text radionony.com will show only the radionomy streams and almost all of them will stream. Many, however steam JAMENDO LOUNGE rather than the station expected. MSExcel, Firefox and Tree Style Tab together are a fast way to find broken radionomy streams that stream JAMENDO LOUNGE by default.

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Re: pepe and Big610 editors

Post by Fonzy » 11 Jul 2019, 01:40

I know , you use that tool for broken streams, but my goal is, that submissions are made that not work in radiosure, but only in webplayers.
Also that submittors even do not posess the radiosure programm , to find out wether the stream is working in radiosure ( The database finaly is for radiosure, no mather for what purpose individuals are using the rsd file.
If I see a https stream, I always test it in radiosure itself, and if https not works, then try http, and if neither of them works, try to find another stream on the website of the station, and that takes some more time.
Lucky I know the few that I have to watch for not testing in the radio itself , (including new submittors to follow)
Big610 even asked me "how to play the stream in radiosure..." he seems not to know what radiosure really is ....??!!, so I am asking myself "why he is then updating the database, for which use , or how does he use the database ??"- for playing in a webservice maybe ?
Everyone is free in this matter , but we are awaiting at least, that the list of stations works (except outdates that have to be corrected )

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Re: pepe and Big610 editors

Post by eMzw7gJ2NjEdmoNkiR9B » 11 Jul 2019, 04:43

I agree with you 100% and thank you for testing approving my submissions.

I did not intend to imply that submitting a new stream without testing in RS was OK - it is not OK. I am always looking for a way to quickly find old streams that are broken and need research. What I had mentioned for testing Radionomy streams results in a list that requires research, not a list to delete without research.

For https and http, sometimes changing from https to http will work directly, other times, they use different ports and the port must be changed as well. Often the http port number is an even number (ending in 0,2,4,6,or 8) and the https stream is an odd number (ending in 1,3,5,7,or 9)

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Re: pepe and Big610 editors

Post by big610 » 01 Dec 2019, 02:37

Fonzy thanks for the Thank You for myself & Pepe, for the hard work. Greatly appreciate it. Yes we all know submitters spend an easy eight hours at a time to be perfect.
You're a good detective I use a Mac Computer, no longer have a Windows.
You could make a lot of money, Mac has nothing at all like RadioSure. Make it in a Virtual or Ubuntu. Or I know Mac Dev's who could write it for you.
Why do I submit? I see you need the help. Plus you have nobody in my Country for confirmation.

For the 2nd time I was no longer able to get into the Forums with my user name & email. Sorry for the delay.
"The email/username information submitted could not be found."
Then when posting: "The submitted form was invalid. Try submitting again."
I'd like to email you to communicate when I have something important, I would never waste your time, you did not respond, when I was locked out the first time.

My work has always been 100% solid all Source's work, in addition I hold an FCC License, please tell your volunteers my credentials, 100% Accuracy no fails. The only problems you will get with me are my eyes, with a miss type, the Copy & Paste retained the former, while not picking up the newer, and my Country restrictions to your Country your verifying in.
The problem I have is your volunteers, do not like the work, when ever I send two dozen at a time, I can sense the anger. So sorry it's so much work.
I'm sorry I'm the type of person, who is conscientious to detail, I'll just knock out the entire State/Providence/District/ etc, your volunteers reactions are incredible. I actually have a good thousand stations with Source & entire details, sitting Ive never sent. I wanted to send but knew it would be a problem of too much work on my part, Rejected, then I have to play Detective, watch for Rejections, count them all to my list find their order, then Appeal re-submit, Rejection. I made a complete schedule to determine when RS Volunteers work. I've had to wait for certain Grey area's when some are Volunteers are gone, I can sneak thru like a criminal and then hope you are on the duty to put them 100% thru like they should have been done from the beginning. It would be so nice if my Rejections just sit with you, rather having to waste my time campaigning, I'm Innocent, Not Guilty. I feel like a criminal who has to sneak around when the RS Volunteer Security, is not working. Then nobody can abuse me, call me names, tell me having four year old outdated software browsers are better, which is impossible, all the streaming companies are designed to outsmart old software & not play, as not secure.

antenaweb was the biggest culprit, he claimed my usual two dozen submissions were all bad URL's. He made quite a mess of your database. You Approved all of mine as problem free. antenaweb admitted he was using a browser four yeas old, out of date, claimed he is problem free but his work gets rejected all the time, so should mine, his way of using outdated software is OK to do, and it's all me I'm the problem not him. I spend hours making sure I never use any outdated software. Your volunteers think I'm incapable, get so upset at me, Why? My Country IP. You don't have anybody in my Country, if you do, I suggest they look at my work to learn. I use the true licensing city, the only way it should be the truth, with adding additional info, including the Owner, which is very helpful for the future when the Source changes. Everyone should be adding the Owner, only I do it, but once again I'm your volunteers Village Idiot, they won't waste their to read my conscientious to the point detailed work, have no idea what I bring. You need Volunteers, hard to come by, their reward crap on me, cool, I'll take the hit, I'm the minority, I'm the Village Idiot. You have my side of the story. Volunteers are rare, keep them happy and light easy work. I'm sure by calling them out, I can expect future retaliation.

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My only reason for contacting you, we have a big problem, with WO Streaming. https://www.wideorbit.com/
Stream Owner Wide Orbit WO Streaming has been converting their portfolio streams and merged purchase of Abacast. I expect soon they will convert their entire portfolio.
WO's list of some of the major owners are Townsquare, Alpha, Cherry Creek, SBS, Univision.
The new stream causes problems in RadioSure and all devices. I've seen you deleting the stations. Has a serious ad blocker, Mozilla can't overcome, only Chrome. Chrome is soon to change the API.
Here's an example with R Communications KNEX KBDR KLNT. http://www.hot1061.com/ http://www.laley1005.com/ http://www.classichits1490.com/.
To find the stream its in the xhr. I can play it but it only last 10 seconds then quits.
If you could please comment, your thoughts what WO has done, the design, the outcome & future?
Sorry for all this on thread, when multiple subjects, but should be together so your Volunteers can decide for their selves if I know what I'm talking about. Let them know the FCC has the spectrum for three countries. Then you can make a decision in another thread about WO Streaming, or you think it's best to keep it hidden here, or delete this paragraph, so nobody else catch on - might be the best to keep streams alive.
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response from mirz on the stations above: Those stations work with webplayers, using pure javascript and no streams to capture with our tool url-snooper. The goal for this is most likely the advertensions they put on the site wile player works, and unlike inLight-radio (not existing anymore)RS cannot show the text-banner stations send along while streaming, with ads and other info
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post will be approved as is now, Thanks for your vision on the work

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